Yahoo Groups March 21 2006 “A PUA Field Report and The Reporter Drill”

Message: 1
Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 19:09:50 -0000
From: “David Caswell”
Subject: Re: confusing

— In seduction_dating@yahoogroups.com, “B Wu” wrote:
>
> We were watching a movie at her house, i was massaging her legs,
> kissed her neck and ear. but she wouldn’t kiss me.
>
> she’s a pretty good friend, so i asked why, she said she didn’t know.
> i felt like the attraction was there.
>
> i seem to do well on teh date and stuff but sometimes i can’t get it
> to go past there. in the past, it was either not go forward or
> SKYROCKET forward like.. you know what i mean. so i’m not sure what it
> is. i have a feeling i might be too touchy and the girl’s not
> comfortable yet. but i need to transition better. any suggestions?

When you leaned over to kiss her, what exactly did she do? Did she put
her hand over her mouth, turn her head, leave the room, tell you to
leave? What are the details?

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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 20:47:08 -0000
From: “hsvtiger04”
Subject: AN RAFC’s night out…

While working to improve my game I still have nights like St.
Patricks day where my execution and decision making suck.

Long story short I went to a party with two women I am
interested in. One I want to sleep with and one I would like
to date. The one I want to sleep with I laid got groundwork
for the weekend. The one I would like to date is a different
story.

We go to a bar with me her and two wings. My target made me promise
not to leave her. I wonder if this is an IOI? Yet I do. Mistake
one.

Regardless I have a girl hit on me and me and my wing begin to work
her and her friend. The girls leave but return back to us my wing
now is gone for he is in my car getting a headshot from another
girl.

I try the number close on the one girl
and I get shot down. Weak effort. Sidenote I have been keeping a
notebook of my sarging and I see this is my one weakness I have
@ucked
on like 4 closes in the last month.

Regardless I find out today the girl I tried to number close is
married while I leave my target alone another guys picks her up
she calls me and says she has a ride home. When all I had to
do was create a little more connection and turn on kino and I am sure
she was mine.

To make matters worse I have been spiting game at her friend and want
to sleep with her this weekend yet they dont much like each other and
if I do that then I may blow my chances with the Target whose company
I do enjoy alot.

Any suggestions from you PUA’s?

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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 21:57:46 -0000
From: “miles0029”
Subject: Re: AN RAFC’s night out…

You seem to have a lot of your mistakes pretty well pointed out,
except that when going after a group of friends like that, you gotta
make a choice. It may be alright if you were going after them and they
didn’t know each other, but with friends they are gonna hear about one
or the other which will blow your shot with the one you didn’t get
with (or try to get with). It seems that you need to make a choice
more about what you want first (relationship or some fun), then go
after the more suitable girl.

Miles

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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 21:52:35 -0000
From: “miles0029”
Subject: Re: confusing

As David said, more details would help. What was the atmosphere like
after you tried kissing her? Did it change drastically or was she
still cool? Did you get any IOI’s to give you the go ahead with the kiss?

Miles

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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 15:45:05 -0800 (PST)
From: Robert
Subject: Re: confusing

There are two potential things to be aware of: (1) some girls have trouble with
intimacy and kissing is a big thing for them. Believe it or not some girls will
let you sleep with them but not want to kiss you. If this is the issue you are
best off moving the interaction forward into more physical terratory and
skipping the kissing part. (2) The other issue is that her attraction meter may
not be adequately warmed up. If this is the case spend more time getting her
comfortable and worked up so she relaxes. Maybe have some wine together next
time you are watching a movie to losen things up.

B Wu wrote: We were watching a movie at her house, i was
massaging her legs,
kissed her neck and ear. but she wouldn’t kiss me.

she’s a pretty good friend, so i asked why, she said she didn’t know.
i felt like the attraction was there.

i seem to do well on the date and stuff but sometimes i can’t get it
to go past there. in the past, it was either not go forward or
SKYROCKET forward like.. you know what i mean. so i’m not sure what it
is. i have a feeling i might be too touchy and the girl’s not
comfortable yet. but i need to transition better. any suggestions?

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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 15:53:29 -0800 (PST)
From: John Starnes
Subject: Re: Re: AN RAFC’s night out…

Thanks Miles. Your right. Good advice.

miles0029 wrote: You seem to have a lot of your
mistakes pretty well pointed out,
except that when going after a group of friends like that, you gotta
make a choice. It may be alright if you were going after them and they
didn’t know each other, but with friends they are gonna hear about one
or the other which will blow your shot with the one you didn’t get
with (or try to get with). It seems that you need to make a choice
more about what you want first (relationship or some fun), then go
after the more suitable girl.

Miles

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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 03:13:45 -0000
From: “hsvtiger04”
Subject: Reporter Drill Day #2…

Well due to a wedding, sickness I have gone a couple weeks without the
Reporter drill so I returned tonight. I went to the mall and went one
for five.

I approached a girl at a cell phone kiosk. She seemed uninterested at
first but seemed to warm up. Then I approached two sets of women the
first saying they didn’t date and the second saying the mall was about
to close and they had to run. Here is the results.

1) Name three characteristics you look for in a man

2) If you were to see a man that interests you, what would capture
your attention?

3) On a first date would you prefer a dinner at a nice restaurant or a
casual date over drinks out (if you are drinking age)?

4) If you were to notice a guy that attracted you, would you be more
likely to approach him or wait for him to approach you?

5) What is the most unusual date you have been on?

6) What is the best date?

7) What is the worst

Girl #4, 26-28 White

1) I really don’t know. A nice person
2) A personality
3) I don’t drink so dinner
4) I wouldn’t approach him
5) I really haven’t been on many unusual dates. High school in general
6) Just a normal date
7) This guy took me to the Lincoln County Fair and made me pay
It was like 2 dollars.

Girl # 5 white, 18 turndown

Girl # 6 white, 19 turndown

Girl # 7 white, 20 turndown

Girl # 8 white, 19-21 turndown

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Message: 8
Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 03:15:58 -0000
From: “dddrsos”
Subject: Step by Step (day 12)

This was a day of production.
I asked 20 girls for directions and 5 smiles.
I real don’t have difficulties to approach girls alone or in groups and
ask for directions, smiles…are a more complicate question.
Well i start to see some progress in my confidence and social skills.
Last night i was in a club and i see two girls dancing, some guys
approachedthem but not get nothing, i approached them too and i was
confident and i won it, i dance and talk with the two girls and one
give me her number (i didn’t ask for it). So, i feel that step by step
i’m building my game.

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Message: 9
Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 12:26:47 +1100
From: “Dean”
Subject: Re: I’m stuck in my seduction, advice please!

Hey Simon, you played it cool and it worked!! She is thinking what category to
put you in. Call her in the next day or two an reinforce the connection you had,
make a meeting/date.
I found when girls state there emotions, on the spot its true. When they take
time to think, its a long thought out process with contiguous plans.
Her confusion will be her down fall. What is her confusion?
Take away, will leave her time to put you into a “friend” frame and you dont
want that. It could sway either way left to her own mind so help it along.
Been there in the afc days, i left it too long and got, “this cant happen
again…I like you but”. friend mode an shield, next….
Tho if M & K are interested go for it

Dean
—– Original Message —–
From: Hart, Simon
To: seduction_dating@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, March 20, 2006 10:35 AM
Subject: [seduction_dating] I’m stuck in my seduction, advice please!

I have reached a point where I’m stuck in my current seduction (or have
become lost in it like in a labyrinth). This is one I’ve been working on for
ages, and yesterdays wedding that I went to was a major success (I think).
Here’s the lowdown (LONG POST, SORRY, BUT ITS ALL IN THE DETAILS):

The target is ‘I’ – and she is a virgin, and a party girl. Very intelligent,
very socially savvy, but never been with a guy.

I stuffed it up at the start ages ago by being wussy and she treated me like
dirt in return, but she has always hung around and toyed with me, ala my
previous post. I’ve been reframing it like a maniac for ages and finally got
her chasing me again.

She is at LEAST now confused about what I am.

So yesterdays wedding – and I go there with my two lesbian friends (M & K,
who are also targets if the opportunity arises).

Firstly, I was the best dressed guy there by miles, and ‘I’ loves fashion.
All the guys wore the typical black suit but I copied my outfit by watching
what Brad Pitt and George Clooney wear in Oceans 11, and I looked a whole
level of coolness above the rest.

I generally busted on ‘I’ the whole time, and made her laugh and the people
on our table laugh. One of my best moments was when she got up to go to the
ladies and was a little tipsy, and in a dead serious tone I said “‘I’, if
you fall over I will never speak to you again.” The whole table laughed, and
she said “Oh there’s a lot riding on this then!”

I made up a game at one point where I leaned over and said “Who’s hotter, M
or K?” – She was totally into this, and we did it by comparing everyone in
the room. Then when it was time to dance, she said “I can’t do partner
dancing!” I tried to encourage her, but she wouldn’t budge, so I grabbed M
and we danced in a very seductive way that raised eyebrows from all sides,
and then I would swap with K and dance with her.

I did not dance with ‘I’ for the rest of the day, only with M & K. ‘I’
basically got blown off the dance floor and went to sit on her own with her
back to me. M said “that’s a good sign, she is ignoring you.”

So after a while I sat down with her and she said she was not enjoying
herself. I said “what happened?” and she said “I think I fell out of love
with someone.” She would not tell me who, so I acted like it was a game of
guessing who it was, and picking out gross guys.

We chatted more about relationships. Then I danced again with M & K. So it
went for the whole day – I was the f__king man, with hot lesbians on my arm,
and she danced alone or else sulked or hung out with the girls.

Then when it was time to leave, she went to leave without saying bye to me
so I sauntered outside and said “Leaving?”

I gave her a hug but did not let go, and we chatted a little (still holding
on). Then I did the old trick of looking from her eyes to her lips and she
said “I can’t kiss you – I feel confused!”

So I said “Well put your arms around my neck and don’t let go.” She did.
Then I was kissing her on her neck and sucking her earlobes. She looked at
me again and said again “I can’t kiss you, I’m too confused.”

I smiled and said “That’s such bullshit” and kissed her more on her neck.
Then her hot friend turned up and (I could have kissed her for this) she
gave me a big hug and said “You’re GORGEOUS!” right in front of ‘I’.

And off they went. ‘I’ looked back at me with a puzzled look on her face and
then walked away.

—- END OF REPORT.

SO………. what the hell? I’m lost! As far as I can tell I did everything
right and made no mistakes. But I’m not sure what she meant by “I can’t kiss
you, I’m confused.”

Is that a test? Punishment for my outrageous flirting with M & K? The switch
isn’t quite flipped back from the old wuss days?

And I have no idea what to do next. I’m thinking I should now do a ‘take
away’ for a whole week and let that all sink into her.

Any thoughts?

S